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LeeAnn 1: Hi Terri TerriNack: Hi all. I just happened to sign on and remembered tonights chat. Can't stay long... TerriNack: what's the topic? Linda8894: Yes. I am logging in Chat log. LeeAnn 1: Future of Figure skating. Linda is hosting. Linda8894: The topic is the future of figure skating. TerriNack: That's a pretty deep topic! Linda8894: Could be!!! TerriNack: Do you think there will be more emphasis on athleticism? or artistry in the future Linda8894: I think that is up to the skaters and where they would like to see it go. LeeAnn 1: Terri, Morry was saying last week that he thinks the sport will actually branch off into those two LeeAnn 1: separate divisions. TerriNack: Seperate competitions? LeeAnn 1: Don't know. LeeAnn 1: If he comes, we can ask him. Linda8894: He said he would try. LeeAnn 1: Most people show up late. TerriNack: Maybe separating the two would make the sport less subjective Linda8894: I would like to see the same music performed by every skater in the technical program . Linda8894: That would seem to make it much more fair in the judging department. TerriNack: that would make it more fair... Linda8894: Since they all have to perform the same moves, it would make the playing field more equal. TerriNack: someone shouldn't be judged because they picked more interesting music SBrackin: More fair in judging maybe, but boring to watch Linda8894: That is the point. LeeAnn 1: You're right about it making it more fair, but it would not be as interesting for the occassional LeeAnn 1: skating fans out there. Sita895661: Hi all, whats the topic? LeeAnn 1: The ones who aren't as involved in the sport. TerriNack: true... Linda8894: Not boring, as you would be able to compare each skater's elements. LeeAnn 1: Hi Sita and Faxe. Faxel 1: Hi. What's up today? LeeAnn 1: Actually, taht's why they don't show gymnastics compulsories anymore. Linda8894: Welcome Sita and Faxel. We are discussing the possibility of usisng the same TerriNack: There are gymnastics compulsories?? Linda8894: music for each skater in the technical program. Faxel 1: Interesting concept. . . where did that come from? LeeAnn 1: Yes, Terri. Actaully, at US nationals they count for more than half of the score, but they are all the Linda8894: Just an idea I had given the judging complaints. LeeAnn 1: same and don't hold the attention of the TV audience so they're never shown on TV. Faxel 1: They would never go for it, since audiences would hate it. Besides, I'm not sure it would improve LeeAnn 1: You're right, though, Linda. It would make judging more objective in the short program. Faxel 1: the judging much. The judges don't really judge what's in front of them anyway. LeeAnn 1: But given seeing how skating is being given more and more air time, I don't think we'll see it. There Linda8894: But this is a sport which also involves the participants and I think it would be more fair t LeeAnn 1: is already so much repetition of the same programs that the TV producers would balk at it. Linda8894: to them and the public might learn something from seeing the same moves Linda8894: over and over. TerriNack: I learn from watching dance compulsories Linda8894: The public would then understand Dick's fawning over a spread eagle for example. LeeAnn 1: The already do in the long programs. They're just arranged differently in the choreography. TerriNack: and it's the same over and over Linda8894: Right, Terri, thae dance compulsories work well and this is the same. Faxel 1: I think it was a big mistake to change from short program to technical. The former short programs Faxel 1: were a lot more comparable. SBrackin: You would also have trouble with the lower end skaters who can't do the hardest combo jumps. LeeAnn 1: But how often do you see dance compulsories on TV? Linda8894: Agreed, and this is a step in that direction. Faxel 1: Now they're comparing apples and oranges. Linda8894: That is the point. SBrackin: it wouldn't be fair to them. Would you tell them they couldn't be in the competition? LeeAnn 1: What exactly is the difference between the short and technical programs? Linda8894: The rules are already set for what a skater must do in the technical program so that would Linda8894: not be a problem. Faxel 1: You have a lot more choice with the technical. Before everyone was doing pretty much the same jumps. LeeAnn 1: Got it. Thanks, Faxel. Faxel 1: Now you have to compare different single triples, very different combinations, etc. Linda8894: The jumps were designated when it was the short program, i.e. not just a triple, but a tripl Linda8894: loop or salchow, etc. LeeAnn 1: Are they going back to the old way? I think that would be a good idea. Faxel 1: For example, what would you rate higher? A triple axel-double toe combo or a triple lutz/TRIPLE toe? TerriNack: Why shouldn't the most difficult jumps be rewarded more? (playing devils advocate) Linda8894: No they are not, but that is what I am proposing and to further ensure equal judging, the sa Linda8894: same music would be an asset to the sakters in the long run. TerriNack: Should they even use the same choreography?? Faxel 1: I agree with Linda, but the skating establishment would never go for it. Besides, it wouldn't Linda8894: Not the point, Terri, they are not given weight now. LeeAnn 1: The TV people will never go for the same music idea. It's a good idea for the sport, but not for those LeeAnn 1: televising it. Faxel 1: be fair for the skaters. Some skaters are better with certain types of music than others. TerriNack: True, but the way moves are presented makes a difference Linda8894: The choreography could be totally different and thus affect the artistic mark. LeeAnn 1: Hi Kate! STERLINGK8: Hi there, sorry I'm late Linda8894: Hi Kate, glad you are here. TerriNack: So there should still be an artistic mark for the technical program? TerriNack: (I think there should be, just wondered what you thought) Linda8894: Pop in your two cents on the proposition that all skaters use the same music with free STERLINGK8: Goodness, what did I miss? Linda8894: choreographical license for the technical program. Faxel 1: Absolutely. The sport is losing a lot of artistry anyway. Remove the artistic mark and nothing's left. Linda8894: Yes, the artistic mark should defintely remain. Otherwise we have nothing but a jumping Linda8894: contest. STERLINGK8: That sounds absolutely dull to me--it'll be like gymnastics where they play the same music for every STERLINGK8: body. You can only watch the first few then you start to nod off. Faxel 1: But from a judging standpoint, it allows the judges to do anything they want. TerriNack: I agree. Better artistry is can bemore athletically difficult in many instances anyway LeeAnn 1: And actually, gymnastics is going to drop compulsories -- becuase they're not adding anything Faxel 1: For example, at the Goodwill Games, Tautarov had a perfect technical and Candelloro missed the combo, Faxel 1: but guess who came out ahead? LeeAnn 1: commerically to the sport. Personally, though, i think it's a bad idea. Those little girls need them. TerriNack: It's really the total package...but how can judging be made less subjective? STERLINGK8: Train the judges better at identifying mistakes and what not Linda8894: I am just thinking of the skaters and the unfairness of judging completely different program Linda8894: especially in light of the dropping of figures. It is no longer a technical sport. Faxel 1: It's not just a matter of training. The judges KNOW what they're doing and why they favor certain Faxel 1: skaters over others. LeeAnn 1: Some would disagree, Linda, and say it's too technical and not artistic enough. Linda8894: Judges are human and will always miss something and make mistalkes and also Linda8894: be taken with a piece of music or showmanship. Fine for the long, but that has no place in Linda8894: the technicalal program since it was supposed to replace thke short and figures. Faxel 1: How come they always make "mistakes" in favor of certain people? Faxel 1: Of the SAME people, I mean. Linda8894: By technical, I do not mean jumps, I mean edges, control and difficult moves. Linda8894: This would also remove politics as the comparisons would be so much easier. Faxel 1: I doubt anything could ever remove politics. Sita895661: Well, not really, what about ice dancing? LeeAnn 1: I'd like to see them go back to saying exactly what moves/jumps are required, though. That would make LeeAnn 1: it easier for comparisons. SBrackin: You're dreaming if you think you can totally eliminate politics. They'll still "err" in SBrackin: favor of their favorites. Sita895661: I'm with LeeAnn.. Sita895661: on required moves, that is.. LeeAnn 1: Thanks. :) LeeAnn 1: Hi Melissa Linda8894: Hi Melissa Faxel 1: THe required moves are required of some people and not others, in the real world. MelissaIS1: Hello everyone! Loooong time no see, eh? Linda8894: Yes, that is the way it is now, but if all was spelled out and all used the same music, the LeeAnn 1: Faxel, that is true in trying to make the judges act more fairly, but it is possible to make the LeeAnn 1: competition theoretically more fair. Linda8894: playing field would be more level. They could still use the freeskate for showmanship. Faxel 1: You're right LeeAnn. Sorry if I sound too cynical. Linda8894: I agree that TV may not like it, but what is good for the sport and it's participants? Linda8894: And furthermore, what is fair? SBrackin: I think they need to do something to encourage, not discourage artistry. There's too much Faxel 1: For the sport it would be best. Unfortunately, it would deny us some great numbers. Sita895661: Linda, would the short would still be worth 1/3? Linda8894: Yes, it should be. SBrackin: emphasis on jumps and quads. And when someone like Surya can be a champion SBrackin: somethings not right somewhere. TerriNack: I don't think there is too much emphasis on jumps--it's a SPORT, ballet is not Faxel 1: But she's a champion not because of her jumps, but only because of the judges. Linda8894: No one is suggesting that artistry not be encouraged. This way it would be interesting to s TerriNack: Although I agree they should have to be well done Linda8894: how each skater interpreted the music. TerriNack: Jumps shouldn't be given equal weight if they are cheated TerriNack: Or done poorly. Faxel 1: I would remove the artistic mark if they introduced an interpretive event. TerriNack: Just because someone can land it doesn't mean the jump is done correctly Sita895661: hi Laura.. Faxel 1: It could count for 10 or 20 percent. Linda8894: No, then the artistic mark would be even more important. SBrackin: Amen, Terri Linda8894: Hi laaura, good to hear from you. Sita895661: Terri, I've been talking with a judge and she explained a lot about the quality of jumps.. LauraP1808: I agree with that Terri, but lately I think many times the cheats and faulty technique is Faxel 1: I mean remove the artistic mark from the TECHNICAL program. LauraP1808: being ignored TerriNack: It shouldn't be ignored. Jumps should be done right. No half rotation on the ground Linda8894: Laura, I suggested thkat all skaters skate to the same music in the technical program with t Linda8894: the same required elements for more fair comparison. TerriNack: or taking off from the wrong edge. Sita895661: re hi LeeAnn LeeAnn 1: Sorry about that - I was booted off by AOL. Linda8894: I agree, Terri and this way the judges would have a more fair comparison. TerriNack: I realize no ones is perfect, but the jumps should be judged by how they are done LauraP1808: Sort of like cumpunsary dance, Linda? STERLINGK8: I was worried about you, Lee Linda8894: Yes, exactly, but only for the technical program. LauraP1808: Terri, did you watch the Olympic Festival? TerriNack: Part of it. LeeAnn 1: No, I'm fine -- and finally got back online. LauraP1808: Not all of Tara Lipinski's jumps were technically correct Faxel 1: If they ever marked the quality of jumps, Surya could never make the top 20 at Worlds. LauraP1808: True Linda8894: Agreed, Faxel TerriNack: Amen, Faxel! HARDbodz: need help? Linda8894: That is the point. If everyone had to execute the same moves to the same music, the judges Linda8894: the public both would have a fair comparison to make. LeeAnn 1: I agree about the same moves part. Faxel 1: The technical program is so hard to mark, that there are bigger differences between judges than in Faxel 1: the free program. Linda8894: Lee, the music too can mesmirize the public or a judge. LauraP1808: Don't be surprised if in the not too distant futures that there will be a separation in the LauraP1808: programs. One technical, one artistic. It's already being discussed LeeAnn 1: But the same music time and time again will drive away the general public and bore the judges by the LeeAnn 1: time teh final skaters are up. Faxel 1: We were just talking about that, Laura. Hope it happens. LauraP1808: Morry seems to think it will Linda8894: Yes, Laura, that is what prompted me to discuss this. STERLINGK8: Hi Janet Faxel 1: Hi Janet. JL Pooley: Hi folks. Sorry to be so late; had to work work work, ick ick ick LeeAnn 1: Hi Janet Sita895661: Hi Janet.. LauraP1808: Perhaps the technical program will be more like a compulsary moves program with no music Faxel 1: It would be a lot fairer . . . but ... YAWN! Linda8894: Hi Janet, jop in here. TerriNack: That would be interesting. Linda8894: We are all too worried about TV and not enough about the skaters. STERLINGK8: Why don't they just bring the compulsories back? Faxel 1: Ugh! LauraP1808: Many skaters would like them to be. Sita895661: But looking at ice dancing, even with compulsory dances the final results are always..well, SBrackin: Not enough dollars to be made with compulories Sita895661: questionable Linda8894: Because figures were a part of that and the older skaters did too well there. STERLINGK8: I for one would like to see a bit more maturity (probably the wrong word) in skaters. STERLINGK8: I want to see EDGES! Faxel 1: The figures left even more room for subjectivity. LauraP1808: Elvis said she wished they were back LeeAnn 1: That is true Linda, but you can't realistically ignore the TV revenue. TerriNack: Yes EDGES!! Sita895661: Agree, Kate JL Pooley: Auggghhh!! Not MATURITY!! :) :) LeeAnn 1: The sport won't progress further into the public image without it. Linda8894: I agree about edges and I think TV is hooked already. STERLINGK8: I told you it was probably the wrong word, but I can't think of anything better LauraP1808: I find a big difference already in the way some of these up and comers skate who haven't TerriNack: I would like to see more footwork too. LauraP1808: done figures. They have zilch for footwork, seldom skate backwards etc Faxel 1: Judges could hold anyone down when they had figures. Nothing anyone could do about it. JL Pooley: Actually, it's not the wrong word Kate; it's just been overused by Dick Button. :) STERLINGK8: You know, I turn down the sound when I know he's talking STERLINGK8: Or drooling Sita895661: play the drinking game Kate.. LeeAnn 1: You can't do that, Kate. He's too funny to miss. Linda8894: Agreed, Janet. But maturity is what the sport needs. We concentrate so much on the new kid Faxel 1: Dick really outdid himself this time, didn't he? Linda8894: and force the verterans out of the sport for big bucks that our international prowess has su Linda8894: suffered. SBrackin: Gee, can I join the I hate Dick club, too! LeeAnn 1: It's nice to see a real adult skating out there. LauraP1808: I don't see the women's field gaining maturity any time fast. They are getting younger and LauraP1808: younger Linda8894: I think we should cultivate longevity as experience is so important in this sport. Faxel 1: It's not just maturity they're lacking. It's personality. STERLINGK8: Absolutely, and I'm getting older and older! LeeAnn 1: And it's pathetic when the 14 year old is one of the most mature in the US field. SBrackin: I really think you won't see too many as young as Michelle Kwan. I think she's something SBrackin: that's going to prove to be very special in the next four years. Linda8894: Agreed, LeeAnn and isn't Dick aptly named? STERLINGK8: Kwan is special though--there aren't too many like her LeeAnn 1: Hahaha, Linda. That's certainly true. JL Pooley: There have been National Champions Kwan's age before, or only a little bit older. Linda8894: Tiffany Chin was nearly as young and look what happened to her. JL Pooley: Not that she's champion yet, but it's likely. Faxel 1: ANd Elaine Zayak! TerriNack: Well, I'm calling it quits, It's late here in Ohio. Wish I could stay and chat. LeeAnn 1: Night Terri. Sita895661: night Terri.. JL Pooley: ACtually I was thinking of Janet Lynn TerriNack: This has been an interesting conversation!! STERLINGK8: Me too-- I'm going to get dinner JL Pooley: Goodnight Terri Linda8894: We are encouraging youngsters too fast and too soon. STERLINGK8: Ciao evryone. JL Pooley: Goodnight Kate LeeAnn 1: Night Kate. Sita895661: bye Kate LauraP1808: Night Linda8894: Goodnight Kate, I will be heding for dinner soon myself. SBrackin: I'm signing off, too, thanks for letting me join in. JL Pooley: And wasn't Peggy Fleming about 15 when she won her first National title? LeeAnn 1: How old was Hammil? LauraP1808: It's a lot easier to haul yourself off the ice when you are a flat chested 12 year old LauraP1808: and do triples LeeAnn 1: Night SBrackin. Good to see you here. Faxel 1: Probably, but Peggy had no competition because of the plane crash business. JL Pooley: Hamill was around 17, I think; I'd have to check. Linda8894: Right, Janet, but the girsl were not expected to do triples back then. Faxel 1: I think Dorothy was 16, but I"m not sure. Linda8894: Another good point, Faxel JL Pooley: So it's the triples that cause the burnout? Sita895661: I think so Janet.. LeeAnn 1: I think Kwan is extraordinary as well, but I don't think she'd be considered the premiere US women LeeAnn 1: if we had a stronger field. LauraP1808: Triples[or lack thereof] has caused many cases of burnout Linda8894: No not burnout but injuries for sure and ungroomed competiveness. Faxel 1: By the time girls gain any maturity, they lose the triples. LauraP1808: Physics LeeAnn 1: Think that's what happend to Ervin? LeeAnn 1: Hi Julie! JulieD3964: hi everyone JL Pooley: Hi Julie Sita895661: I hope Ervin is coming back strong.. Linda8894: Hi Julie, welcome and good to hear from you. Faxel 1: I don't think Ervin really had the triples. Too bad. JulieD3964: janet the tassel woman Sita895661: don't know about Nicole Bobek though.. Linda8894: Tassel? JL Pooley: julie the costume designer extraordinaire Sita895661: no Julie, Janet the pearl lady.. LauraP1808: It's a lot harder for a full grown woman to do triples than a little sprite. More impressive JL Pooley: Julie and I have been joking about costumes, Linda. Linda8894: No sequins? LauraP1808: when they do them, but definitely harder Faxel 1: er... are we supposed to be in on all this? Linda8894: No, they are inside joking now. JL Pooley: It's tassels made of pearls now, Sita. JulieD3964: in the armpits JL Pooley: Just a little evening silliness, that's all. Linda8894: Julie, what do you think about having the skaters using the same music and the same required Faxel 1: No problem :) That's what we're here for. Linda8894: moves for the technical program? JL Pooley: Hey, maybe they should take age and build into consideration when they judge... :) :) JulieD3964: I like the technical program the way it is JL Pooley: Only now it's the Short Program again. Faxel 1: THey should start by taking into consideration what happens on the ice for a change! JL Pooley: Hi Marge! LeeAnn 1: Hi Marge! Linda8894: Would quad size be an asset in the mens division then Janet? Sita895661: hi Marge! MargeR1: Hi all! Linda8894: Hi marge! JulieD3964: marge.......:) JL Pooley: Well, that's just it, Linda. If a big guy like Prince B does a quad, maybe it would count more JL Pooley: than if a little guy like Aren does one. :) :) Linda8894: No I meant the size of thighs. JulieD3964: This ain't no beauty contest - it's SKATING JL Pooley: Oh, I see, duhhhh, LOL Linda!! Linda8894: Aagreed, Julie and that's why I though a more fair playing field migh be needed Faxel 1: Wanna bet the likes of Urmanov and Katarina get 3 tenths more for looks? Linda8894: Urmanov for looks?????? JL Pooley: I was joking around, Julie, by saying that since it's harder for a full grown woman to do triples LeeAnn 1: I think Debbi Thomas would have agreed with you on that one, Faxe. JL Pooley: as opposed to a little sprite, they ought to take age and build into consideration when they judge. JL Pooley: *sigh* I adore Urmanov's looks.... JulieD3964: So steroid man should get an extra .1 for having a big butt? no way Linda8894: His costuming and his funky chicken move has to go though, Janet JL Pooley: No, but his big-butt triple would count more than a little-butt triple. :) :) Faxel 1: IF Urmanov could only skate like he LOOKS . . . JulieD3964: I like the chicken move - he's sooooo coooool Linda8894: Who is steroid man, Julie? LeeAnn 1: As well as the answering-the-telephone move. JL Pooley: Nope, love the costumes! Pink! Pearl! Sita895661: I noticed another weird move..kinda like he was cranking something.. JulieD3964: don't forget the tassels Linda8894: And the elizabethan collar JulieD3964: so I should get a LOT of extra points for having a big butt and legs and stomach and front size & head JulieD3964: skating must be my sports afterall...... JL Pooley: But only if you land the jump, Julie... :) Linda8894: I like his skating, but he needs costuming and choreography JL Pooley: If only all men knew how enchanting they look in elizabethan styles.... JulieD3964: But do I have to stay up on the nonessential stuff? Sita895661: Actually, I thin k his skating technique iis improving.. JL Pooley: You mean the "foo-foo"? Sita895661: don't those collars itch? Linda8894: No, Julie, you can falal on footwork and three turns JulieD3964: Alexei DOES have costuming & choreography - you just don't LIKE it JulieD3964: Ouch - I fell on footwork & three turns tonight Faxel 1: Actually I DO like him. Better than Elvis and Candelloro, anyway. He could use a choreographer, Faxel 1: that's all. Linda8894: I guess that is it Julie, but I think he has a better program in him Linda8894: Julie how are your Harlicks? JulieD3964: have to go back again I think - not sure Linda8894: My Brian one is a bit too big yet, but my Scott one is perfect. JulieD3964: want to hear the scoop from the rink? JL Pooley: That's so cute, Linda; it sounds like you NAMED the boots!! :) :) Linda8894: I am going to continue breakin for a couple more weeks before I do anything. JL Pooley: We ALWAYS wanna hear the scoop from the rink. Linda8894: I can still pick my heel up in the Brian boot though and I don't think that is good. Sita895661: Spill Julie.. JulieD3964: Well, this guy Milo was talking to this gal Denise and Milo told Denise that he JulieD3964: knew what Scott Davis's long program was gonna be this year Linda8894: Yes, janet, muy boots are names as Brian signed the right one and Scott signed the left one. JL Pooley: And.... [she said breathlessly] JulieD3964: Denise asked what it was gonna be and Milo said "West Side Story" LeeAnn 1: Linda, if they fix the boots, won't that ruin the signature? Faxel 1: I was about to ask if it's West Side Story III.... JulieD3964: So Denise said NOT AGAIN and Milo said it's a new cut and different songs JL Pooley: Oh, I knew about the signatures, I just liked they way you described the boots. Linda8894: No not at all, they would just expand the heel hugger pads. JulieD3964: And DEnise asked which one and Milo said it was just variations on ONE song Linda8894: Scott's program will definitely not be West Side Story this year and I have this from Scott Sita895661: another West Side Story? LeeAnn 1: Good, I thought they'd have to cut the leather and pull it in more. JulieD3964: Denise asked What song? So milo answered........ MargeR1: Do you know what Scott's music will be? JulieD3964: I FEEL PRETTY Faxel 1: Ah... the suspense! JL Pooley: LOL MargeR1: you are naughty! <G> LeeAnn 1: Julie, where the devil do you come up with this stuff? :D LOL JulieD3964: A friend told me that :) JL Pooley: My gosh you dragged that one out a long time! I almost believed you! JL Pooley: Re-hi, Laura Linda8894: Kind of like when they arrested John Ellway in the OJ Simpson case, huh? LeeAnn 1: I know I've been asking around, but is anyone going to Pro-Am? JulieD3964: laura JL Pooley: *sigh* Want to, can't really afford to. Faxel 1: Does ANYONE know what Victor will do next year, by any chance? Linda8894: No word on Victor as yet. JulieD3964: He'll make big bucks giving THE LOOK MargeR1: Hi Laura Sita895661: and pointing.. JulieD3964: Well, Janet - I'll find a cheap hotel for Halifax in a good location Faxel 1: Wonder if he'll do Landover. I guess not, to keep his options open. JulieD3964: and saying "Hi Baby, what's yo sign?" Linda8894: I am considering the Pro=Am so keep me posted. JL Pooley: "What a Ham, What a Ham, What a Ham..." Faxel 1: How many of you are going to Skate the Dream? JL Pooley: Meeeeeeee JulieD3964: Hard Working Ham Linda8894: AS IFFFFF!!!!~ JulieD3964: When A Ham loves a Woman? Sita895661: Are tickets still available for Skate the Dream? Faxel 1: We could have some party! Linda8894: Great one, Julie Faxel 1: Tickets go on sale Sept. 1. So far they only sold gala tickets. JL Pooley: Wonder if ANYONE will do Landover -- seems like it'll just be Paul Wylie and Rosalyn Sumners Linda8894: Convert that to fit Dick now Julie. JL Pooley: LOL Julie! JulieD3964: Kurt will be at Landover Faxel 1: Kurt will do it for sure JL Pooley: Oh, that's right, I forgot about Kurt, sorry. Faxel 1: And I bet Robin, too. JulieD3964: Maybe they can get Michael Slipchuk!!!!! Faxel 1: They may be desperate enough! JL Pooley: I'm not sure Dick Button has HEARD of Michael Slipchuk. JulieD3964: What? He's great (am offended a little I think) Faxel 1: Sorry Julie. Sita895661: Anyone hear about a pro competition in Cleveland? JulieD3964: not offended Faxel 1: I always sided with Matthew Hall over Slipchuck. Sita895661: another Dick Button production.. JulieD3964: but Slipchuk is better looking JL Pooley: I heard about a Dick Button-type competition in Canada, for Canadian skaters... Sita895661: Maybe Nancy will do Landover.. Faxel 1: Then Matt??? Linda8894: Well gang, I must run for now, but this has been a real slice. JulieD3964: oh yes - most definitely Faxel 1: What's our topic next week? JulieD3964: Slice? What's a slice? LeeAnn 1: Night Linda. :) JL Pooley: A slice is less than a chunk, Julie. Linda8894: Lee, let's talkl further about field trips. JL Pooley: Bye Linda!! JulieD3964: What's a chunk? I'm confused Sita895661: A chunk is a fat hunk! Linda8894: Janet and Julie, let me hear from you more, I miss your humor. LeeAnn 1: Sure thing. I'll call about hotels tomorrow. And I'm keeping on Daf Baker about tickets. LeeAnn 1: That's Dad, not Daf. Linda8894: Actually it has been a big chunk. JL Pooley: Give my regards to the boots...... :) :) JulieD3964: THat is so weird JL Pooley: <--singing "Give My Regards to Your Boots, Remember Me to Prince and Scott...." :) Faxel 1: That's all guys. Gotta run. See you next week. Sita895661: bye Faxel... Linda8894: I will kiss them doubly tonight and I will definitely give your regards to the Prince and Sc JL Pooley: Bye Faxel!! Linda8894: Scott with pleasure. LeeAnn 1: Bye Faxe. JulieD3964: You KISS your boots? Ugggghhhhh JL Pooley: Thanks Linda! Goodnight! JulieD3964: I would NEVER kiss my boots JL Pooley: It's better than kissing another person's boots, Julie! :) JulieD3964: Big ugggghhhh to that suggesstion Janet Linda8894: Glad you all love my boot names and sorry Julie, but boot kissing is the best barring the re Linda8894: real thing. JulieD3964: You're going to kiss someone elses' boots - sick Linda sick JL Pooley: Julie is still scarred from selling shoes at Macy's, I bet. Linda8894: No, I only kiss my own boots, Julie. JulieD3964: I am confused why would you kiss fake boots? Linda8894: Goodnight all Sita895661: night Linda..